Hometown: Pomeroy, Meigs County, Ohio
Interviewer: Brandy Ganger
What was it like in Carol's school as a young girl?
Q: Carol, what were your parents names?
A: Bernice and Arthur Evans
Q: What were their parents names?
A: Dads parents names were John and Esther Evans
Moms parents names were Kathy and Dan Arnold.
Q: What did your Father do for a living?
A: He was a carpenter
Q: What school did you go to?
A: I went to Rose Hill School that was right over here a top the hill where Frankie and (could not hear name) live now, ah, went 8 years to Rose Hill school and then I went to Pomeroy High school.
Q: What was it like going to your school?
A: There was no indoor plumbing, the bathrooms were outside, we had a water cooler in the and some of the boys would bring the water and fill it up and you had to bring your own drinking cup. So you would have something to drink out of, some of the kids had those collapsible cups, you know. We never had one of those we always wanted one. There was central heating, a furnace in the building. One thing I always remember especially was the big clock up on the wall. You probably seen those regulator clocks that had the pendulum in it. We had one of those and I remember sitting there watching it, tick, tock, tick .
There were, in one room, the first room we had 1st and 2nd grade, and then 3rd and the 5th and 6th in one room and then the 7th and 8th.
Q: How did you view school punishment, what was it like for you?
A: Oh, usually, usually you were paddled if you didnt go by the rules. Usually most kids behaved pretty well I dont remember too many problems of having a problem.
Q: When you were a teenager what did you do for fun?
A: Oh, uh, when I was in high school I was in the band course this was during the second world war and we didnt get to go to very many away ball games, there was, they tried to take you to one away ballgame a year because the gas was rationed. But uh, we did a lot of singing, uh kids get would together you know, a couple of car loads and they like to go out and sing, and there was square dancing. And the school had dances in the summer time and uh, where the City hall is now, in the auditorium where you first go in they were there in the summer time and the student council did them during the school year. And thats mainly what we did. We did have two movies in town, that was a big thing.
Q: When did you start dating?
A: When I was in high school I suppose. I was probably fifteen.
Q: What was dating like?
A: Well, if you lived out in the country, like this was out in the country then whoever you dated had to have a car or a way you know to come. Janine and I were sisters, she was two years older than I was, we did some double dating cause her boyfriend was old enough to drive. Like I said we went to the movies a lot and there was a skating rink down in Middleport was like a portable one and it would come in the Summer time and it was under a big tent that had a wooden floor and everything and that was what we did.
Q: Do you remember the flood of 37?
A: I was seven years old then, yes I do remember some things about it. The water reached clear out to the bottom of the hill up at Salisbury school and you couldnt get off of this hill there was water out the other way and it went out the road. So, the Red Cross came out to the fairground. I remember one time when and had food and we lived right across the road and my grand mothers house was across the road too, there where Daves trailer is now. And I remember my Uncle was going out across the hill, cause you can walk clear across this ridge clear out to the high school. And they went out to the fairground and came back and they had oranges and we hadnt had fruit and anything for quite awhile. We didnt have oranges often ah not year round like you do now and bananas like you do now. I remember that especially, and I remember on time Mom took ah, we heard on the radio that there was a house floating down the river, so she took us all up on top of the hill where the Simpsons live where you can see the river, and we went up there and watched it.
Q: Did the depression ever affect your family?
A: Ah, yes course I was pretty young then but I know it was awful hard, we, like I said, lived there by my grandmother. And I remember Dad taking care of Janine and I because Mom was teaching. So she did have work to do. But there was a large family and my grandmother had a lot of children. It was pretty hard for people I think.
Q: When did you get your first television?
A: Well I was married then. Lets see. I think it was about the time Ann our first child was born that would have been 1954 maybe. Phils mother and father had one of the first television set I every saw, and that was back around 52 something like that.
Q: How do, what kind of TV programs did you have.
A: Well lets see. Uh one program that was a favorite of everybodys was The Fugitive. That was a really, really interesting program. And I liked, oh, Sid Caesar had a Show of Shows. It was a good comedy show and Emma Jean Cocoa was on it and Rob Reiner. And it was a really good show. The Ed Sulllivan Show and the Jack Sullivan Show are the ones that stand out in my mind. Perry Como, ya know, usually them bigger stars had a bigger show and they were variety shows.
Q: How did World War II effect your life?
A: Well I remember uh the day that Pearl Harbor happen, I, uh, had gone over to my grandmothers to get her, uh, comics out of her Sunday paper. We didnt have get a pair wed just usually get hers. When I got over there everyone was sitting in the living room around the radio. And I, uh, wondered what was going on. I knew something was wrong. I could tell and I remember uh grandma said to go over home and tell your mom and dad the Japanese have boomed Pearl Harbor. This was on a Sunday morning. So I went over and told them. And the next day when we went to school, uh, our teacher told us that President Roosevelt was going to speak to the country and we were going to listen to it on the radio. This was something special because ordinarily in school that wasnt even a radio there. But shed brought a radio for us so we could hear. And he spoke and then we declared war on Japan. And from then on that uh my uncles went into the service most of them went after that. Most of the men around here were gone. Uh we collected newspapers and scrap iron. Everything was rationed. You got a couple pair of shoes a year. (She laughs). Dad always laughed and said there were so many of us that he couldnt afford to buy us more shoes than he had ration stamps for anyway. I had a four sisters and three brothers. So there was eight of us. (She laughs). Food was rationed. One thing I always remember my parents complained about and my grandparents too is the fact that they could buy as much coffee as they wanted. Because it was rationed too. That was one of the hardest things I think. And the gasoline was rationed.
Q: Did the Vietnam affect your family?
A: Ah, no not nearly as much. Now Phil was in Korea, so the Korean War affected us more than the Vietnam war, except that the Vietnam war was on television. We saw so much of it on television that I think thats why it became such a contentious, ah, people really saw what war was like. With the world war and those , see went to the movies youd see the news cast but not like turning on your television. One thing I remember I was working for the Sentinel when ah, during the Vietnam War and I remember a boy came in one day to talk to Mr. Hoeflich, and he had come from Kent State and theyd had that shooting up there at Kent State he was so upset. He was on his way home to Kentucky. He was so upset he had to stop and tell somebody what it was like up there. That was a hard time because (pause) I dont know any time there was as much conflict among ordinary people. If you had someone over there you were worried to death about them.
Q: How do you think things have changed since you were a child?
A: Oh, ah, materially theres so many more things. Uh, now seems it seems like in a day you can fill up a waste with things youre throwing away, like paper, and things and uh, when we were kids when you went to the store to get sugar they would measure it out in a brown bag and tie it shut and you saved all the bags and things like that and use them again. There wasnt nearly the throw away things. And thats become such a big problem to us now, what do you do with all of the stuff you throw away? One thing that stands out in my mind. A lot more walking course there wasnt as many cars. If you wanted to go shopping on Saturday you walked downtown and back. The school buses never came up on the hill oh, I dont know Ann was in the second grade at Salisbury. Uh, (pause) I cant think of those are the things that changed the most. I remember when Phil and I got married we lived up here on the hill. He was the only person on this side of the hill with a car, course most people now have two cars. And, ah, you dont have nearly as much time. When I was a kid it seemed like the summer lasted for ever. When you were outside reading you could hear the leaves and things. Now when youre outside what you hear is the lawn mowers, its noisier.
Q: Is there any thing that you think should have stayed the way it was instead of changing?
A: Well, I dont know I guess the older I get the noise bothers me. Even in your house the television is on. I like the way things are more comfortable. I like having indoor plumbing and central heating in your house and uh, and theres a lot of way lifes a lot easier. I remember especially one thing I thought would be a miracle and that was a clothes dryer. Like I told you there were eight children in our family and on wash day in the winter time it was it was you know you had to hang your clothes outside. I remember I come home from school at recess time, when we lived right over there and hang out diapers and by the time you get them shook out theyd be frozen. And I thought boy, if somebody just come up with a dryer thatd be a miracle (laughs). So you wouldnt have to hang out clothes or have them strung out all around the house over the registers a dryin. Theres a lot of things like that make life easier. Course you dont have to work nearly as hard as people used to have to work.. Just managing to live and thats nice.
Q: Was your childrens life growing up a lot different from yours?
A: Well lets see. Yes I suppose for one thing there wasnt as many of them. Phil and uh about 2 and half years apart and uh Loris about six years younger than Phil. So there wasnt we had more things, uh, I think you try to raise your children the way youve been raised. One thing, they seem to have less time in the Summer time. If you played ball why then you spent more time getting the kids to different activities. When I was a child you didnt have nearly the organized activities that kids do now. You just take it for granted this is a part of what you do. Probably less free time, sometimes I think that s things they enjoy.
Q: Do you think peoples morals have changed from when you were growing up?
A: I dont think people have changed much, they are a lot more open. I think we know more about what going on and people dont hesitate to talk about it. And television (laughs) I dont know about it. I cant believe some of the things you hear on it. But as far as if anything people are more aware wrongs that go on in the world and probably try to do more to improve. I guess essentially I think people ought to try an do the best that they can.
Q: Is there anything that you would like to talk about that I havent covered?
A: I cant think of anything. (laughs)
A: Ive enjoyed it.
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